Episode 98: Power and Inclusive Workplaces

Are you curious about how power dynamics can shape a more inclusive and welcoming environment at work? This episode navigates the complex relationship between power, inclusiveness, and creating a sense of belonging.

Jason Patent is a consultant and educator as well as the author of Humanly Possible: A New Model of Leadership for a More Inclusive World. Jason has lived and worked extensively in China, and his past roles include Director of the Robertson Center for Intercultural Leadership at UC Berkeley’s International House, American Co-Director of the Hopkins–Nanjing Center for Chinese and American Studies, and Director of the Stanford Program in Beijing.

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Episode Highlights


The relationship between power and inclusiveness


Examples of how we can be blind to our own power


Navigating interpersonal power dynamics in China


The intersection of cultural dimensions and power


The "but test" to gain insights about our own biases


How good intentions can backfire when we're unaware of our biases


Explanation of the concept of bridging


Strategies for bridging across high and low context cultures


The practice of bridging by "taking one extra beat"


How to receive feedback from somebody who has less power


Tim Clark's four stages of psychological safety

Jason's view on the greatest unmet wellbeing need at work today

"It is, to the extent that somebody has power, including societal privilege, right, identity based societal privilege, acknowledging that and using it to create more inclusive spaces and more psychologically safe space…because by not doing that we are damaging others."

What “working with humans” means to Jason

“If I had to put it in one word...I would say 'care'.

Working with humans is treating other human beings with care...I feel that every human life is precious. Human dignity is precious. And we need to take care of one another. And if I have the opportunity, and the privilege and the honor of working with another human, I have the duty to care.”


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Read: Humanly Possible: A New Model of Leadership for a More Inclusive World

Michael Glazer is the creator and host of Humans At Work. His purpose in life is to make well-being at work a globally-accepted, basic human right. Learn more about Michael here.